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It follows an old trail (very little new cut sections, none for beginners) onto bumps, 5 1/2 foot drop w/go around, onto bumps again (fast section) to twisted sister, 3 foot drop, down fire road, then to trail 14, fast, fast, fast, fun, fun, fun!!!! Even if it rains it wont be a mudfest, trail 14 drains well and is hard packed! Its easy if you go slow , difficult if you go fast. we will mark it out next weekend 16th, 17th. Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 6:23 pm tbiker615 All-City   Joined: Feb 1, 2003 Posts: 549 Location: Keansburg, New Jersey sweet, please say that we the sport and beginners will be able to have the option of doing the drops. Please say yes that lazlo will let us do them. _________________ Timmay, Timmay, Live It Loud, Timmay!!! Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 7:50 pm eastcoastzigzag Team Hcor.net   Joined: Sep 7, 2002 Posts: 3574 Location: utica/elmira NY tbiker615 wrote: sweet, please say that we the sport and beginners will be able to have the option of doing the drops. Please say yes that lazlo will let us do them. ---------time to move up if ur willing to do expert drops. _________________ "Pretend it's the lumber yard Cru. Go balls out." - Sgt Smith, RAD Dynasty Clothing Co. - COMING SOON!!! Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 10:47 am atom Team Hcor.net   Joined: Sep 7, 2002 Posts: 3828 Location: Strong Island, NY eastcoastzigzag wrote: tbiker615 wrote: sweet, please say that we the sport and beginners will be able to have the option of doing the drops. Please say yes that lazlo will let us do them. ---------time to move up if ur willing to do expert drops. agreed. _________________ peace love and harmony. Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 6:31 pm tbiker615 All-City   Joined: Feb 1, 2003 Posts: 549 Location: Keansburg, New Jersey just because i am capable of doing drop offs, doesnt make me or anyone a expert rider. I have done drops up to 13 ft. But I am not a fast racer and do not have enough experience in the sport. My times just aren't good enough. I feel that you shouldn't move up to expert class until you are a true expert in the sport. To move up just to ride the harder trails is assinine. Also, occasionally there is a drop off or two in the sport course. I counted 6 drop off in the sport course for the June race. _________________ Timmay, Timmay, Live It Loud, Timmay!!! Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 8:02 pm eastcoastzigzag Team Hcor.net   Joined: Sep 7, 2002 Posts: 3574 Location: utica/elmira NY tbiker615 wrote: just because i am capable of doing drop offs, doesnt make me or anyone a expert rider. I have done drops up to 13 ft. But I am not a fast racer and do not have enough experience in the sport. My times just aren't good enough. I feel that you shouldn't move up to expert class until you are a true expert in the sport. To move up just to ride the harder trails is assinine. Also, occasionally there is a drop off or two in the sport course. I counted 6 drop off in the sport course for the June race. -------no way man. the only way u will get faster is to get beat for a while. u will advance faster if u move up. u will not get faster unless ur challenged. if u can do the drops, go for it man. _________________ "Pretend it's the lumber yard Cru. Go balls out." - Sgt Smith, RAD Dynasty Clothing Co. - COMING SOON!!! Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 8:09 pm biknmike Toy   Joined: Aug 11, 2003 Posts: 18 Location: Central New Jersey I dont know what norba would say about allowing beginner /sport course to have large drops in it. i want the course to be for all racers, one course with easy go-arounds, my daughter can do the drops but she isnt quite ready for expert yet, but if she can do all the drops she needs to move up!!! Mabey well find all the sandbaggers this race. the course will be marked this weekend. Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 8:12 pm biknmike Toy   Joined: Aug 11, 2003 Posts: 18 Location: Central New Jersey eastcoastzigzag wrote: tbiker615 wrote: just because i am capable of doing drop offs, doesnt make me or anyone a expert rider. I have done drops up to 13 ft. But I am not a fast racer and do not have enough experience in the sport. My times just aren't good enough. I feel that you shouldn't move up to expert class until you are a true expert in the sport. To move up just to ride the harder trails is assinine. Also, occasionally there is a drop off or two in the sport course. I counted 6 drop off in the sport course for the June race. -------no way man. the only way u will get faster is to get beat for a while. u will advance faster if u move up. u will not get faster unless ur challenged. if u can do the drops, go for it man. I agree!!! Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 8:25 pm eastcoastzigzag Team Hcor.net   Joined: Sep 7, 2002 Posts: 3574 Location: utica/elmira NY biknmike wrote: I dont know what norba would say about allowing beginner /sport course to have large drops in it. i want the course to be for all racers, one course with easy go-arounds, my daughter can do the drops but she isnt quite ready for expert yet, but if she can do all the drops she needs to move up!!! Mabey well find all the sandbaggers this race. the course will be marked this weekend. ---------ru the guy that ur daughter had a trek w/ 24's? if so, she rides great! she will b very competive one day. far as norba, laz is the norba offcial, so he can do what he wants. also their should b drops in a beg/spo course, but they should b rollable. _________________ "Pretend it's the lumber yard Cru. Go balls out." - Sgt Smith, RAD Dynasty Clothing Co. - COMING SOON!!! Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:26 pm Hcor Site Admin   Joined: Sep 8, 2002 Posts: 3663 Location: New Jersey eastcoastzigzag wrote: biknmike wrote: I dont know what norba would say about allowing beginner /sport course to have large drops in it. i want the course to be for all racers, one course with easy go-arounds, my daughter can do the drops but she isnt quite ready for expert yet, but if she can do all the drops she needs to move up!!! Mabey well find all the sandbaggers this race. the course will be marked this weekend. ---------ru the guy that ur daughter had a trek w/ 24's? if so, she rides great! she will b very competive one day. far as norba, laz is the norba offcial, so he can do what he wants. also their should b drops in a beg/spo course, but they should b rollable. His daughter is Nicole, she rides a mini karpiel and she rips. Mike is a fast old bastard as well. The course will be fun and fast for all. Good seeing you on Sunday Mike....Ill see you at the U.S Open. _________________ Be careful how you treat others, for you may develop a bad rash. Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 12:38 am sean Team Hcor.net   Joined: Sep 10, 2002 Posts: 2403 Location: New York Hcor wrote: eastcoastzigzag wrote: biknmike wrote: I dont know what norba would say about allowing beginner /sport course to have large drops in it. i want the course to be for all racers, one course with easy go-arounds, my daughter can do the drops but she isnt quite ready for expert yet, but if she can do all the drops she needs to move up!!! Mabey well find all the sandbaggers this race. the course will be marked this weekend. ---------ru the guy that ur daughter had a trek w/ 24's? if so, she rides great! she will b very competive one day. far as norba, laz is the norba offcial, so he can do what he wants. also their should b drops in a beg/spo course, but they should b rollable. His daughter is Nicole, she rides a mini karpiel and she rips. Mike is a fast old bastard as well. The course will be fun and fast for all. Good seeing you on Sunday Mike....Ill see you at the U.S Open. ah your daughter totally rips mike.....she'll be the next big woman pro in ten years, i guarantee it. what other girls are out there at her age riding as much as her and rippin it up. too bad she has no one to race against Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:58 pm tbiker615 All-City   Joined: Feb 1, 2003 Posts: 549 Location: Keansburg, New Jersey I feel drops should be in the sport course. There are always go arounds, even for the experts. There is one thing, to do a drop like Broken Tooth at your leisure and there is another thing of doing it in the flow. Its hard to do this drop in the flow, after coming off the drop before it. I want to have drops in the sport course just for the fact of doing them in the flow and challenging myself more. The reason I am not moving up to expert, any time soon, is that I keep finishing in the back 1/4 of my age class. until I can move my times up to the top 50%, I feel I have no right classifying myself as an expert, and racing their course. _________________ Timmay, Timmay, Live It Loud, Timmay!!! Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:07 pm eastcoastzigzag Team Hcor.net   Joined: Sep 7, 2002 Posts: 3574 Location: utica/elmira NY tbiker615 - i would def hook up w/ some expert racers and do some runs w/ them then. its the only way to get faster. _________________ "Pretend it's the lumber yard Cru. Go balls out." - Sgt Smith, RAD Dynasty Clothing Co. - COMING SOON!!! Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 6:16 pm tbiker615 All-City   Joined: Feb 1, 2003 Posts: 549 Location: Keansburg, New Jersey I do. Damn near everyone I ride with and hang out with at the races, are experts. This is my second year on any type of suspension bike. Just to be able to say I can make it down Plattekill's mtn, is a success story. I cant wait to be able to consider myself an expert. I hope to be there mid season next year and have July or August be my first ezpert race. _________________ Timmay, Timmay, Live It Loud, Timmay!!! Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 8:38 pm JulianBC Kingpin   Joined: Sep 11, 2002 Posts: 2419 Location: glens falls, NY ahhhhh shiiieettt i cant wait! if i crank out podium at ragged and platt maybe ill move to jr x and get stomped _________________ elevate cycles Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 10:58 am atom Team Hcor.net   Joined: Sep 7, 2002 Posts: 3828 Location: Strong Island, NY experts should be forced to do the drops. sports should have options. _________________ peace love and harmony.